Mobile versionHello guys and girls, I thank in advance everyone who reads and writes their opinion/advice, the forum is about a pickup truck, but here we are talking about pink snot. Given:
I am a 26-year-old guy, a kind, honest, naive pancake, adequate (this is not exact), but with cockroaches - “tfn", experience of communicating with girls is about zero.
Girl - 23 years old, either with cockroaches or VERY cunning (I still don’t understand), CMS in boxing, had concussions, and now has problems with the head, a maximalist in everything, drinks sedatives, mood swings. If something doesn’t work out at work, for example, it’s a tragedy, and in general, it seems like he’s not jokingly saying that he considers himself a bit of a jackass. According to her, she had one guy, 5 years of relationship, they were planning a wedding. According to her, she is a virgin, and her boyfriend, due to the fact that his family is very religious, said that everything would happen after the wedding, and he himself was engaged in affairs with other ladies. She burned him once and forgave him. I didn’t forgive the second time and left.
The situation - for my taste, she is beautiful, I was hooked that I even dared to meet her crookedly, but to meet her, on the street (2nd time in my life). It was a year ago, she understood and helped, she said, give me the ladies’ number, we corresponded, we met, we went for a walk, we talked, I remembered when she talked about her favorite flowers (without showing off, chrysanthemums). I don’t know how to “bewitch” girls at all, at the 2nd meeting in the process I started hugging, at the 3rd I gave these flowers and kissed them at the end... and that’s it, it was September she was studying, she started to blend in. We haven't seen each other/correspondence is off the hook. After 2 weeks of such “communication”, I said that we do not see each other and she communicates coldly. She said that I was not suitable for her because I started to download my license (yes, there is a sin, I have already started to say that I am against parties, partying, bad habits) and that I kissed him and “hurried things.” I tried to sort it out and smooth it out, to establish communication. But everything continued in the same vein, coldness and lack of meetings. I got burned, stated that I didn’t like this format of communication, and they told me “bye.” But she hooked me and pressed me, I tried to somehow rectify the situation, asked to start all over again, the answer was refusal, and it got to the point where she said she had a boyfriend within a week. I didn’t believe it (but in general I understood that maybe my studies had started and a better option had appeared), and it got to the point that the guy called me and said, like, don’t do crap, well, I realized that I had gone too far (and generally an idiot) and fell behind. But she didn’t leave my mind, and I didn’t fully believe that I found the guy so quickly. Congratulated me on NG with a message, asked how you were doing - rude dump, I have a boyfriend. (but I didn’t see any photos with him) I congratulated him with a birthday message - it was a waste, but I was interested in how I was doing, I was surprised that I congratulated him, BUT - I have a boyfriend. Then I completely gave up, half a year passes, in TG there is a message from her about some documents. After clarification, it turned out that she accidentally (?) mixed it up and sent it to the wrong person at work, but she already communicated amiably and was interested in how things were going. I asked why so friendly? “You seem to have cooled down and left me, I can admit that the guy is not there and never was, I had to because you didn’t leave.” Well, we decided to meet just to chat - she said that she asked to call a friend (there was even an idea to call him, find out who he is, because deep down I still don’t believe in this), she said that she didn’t want a relationship at all, that after her boyfriend betrayed her, she I’m not at all sure that she’ll love someone, that she doesn’t know why she met me, because she didn’t think at all that I’d be so fixated and she’s disgusted that she did this to me (I don’t believe it, BUT I started to get stuck again). She said we can just communicate, I don’t need a relationship, touching, hugging, kissing is prohibited.
I thought that she was very nice to me, I wouldn’t push the gas and pump up my license, let’s talk, maybe something will work out, but what turned out to be some kind of crap: we’ve been talking for 3 months, we see each other 1-2 (usually 2) times a week. After ~2 meetings, I still started hugging her, then kissing her on the cheek, forehead, when we met and said goodbye. (I don’t mind, but I’m not happy either) I have an apartment and a car, we’ll either go for a ride, get something to eat at the poppy, or We sit in the car and talk, so what does winter allow (a short walk, an ice skating rink, a movie). Either we relax at my house, or at hers (If she’s overwhelmed with work, she rents an apartment, she’s not local), there was a movie and wine, and still I couldn’t even kiss her. Once I touched you on the ass, supposedly to straighten your pants, the reaction was negative, and the lecture was that you would grope whores, and I’m not your girlfriend. There were conversations that I liked her, in response “you are a good guy (yes, yes, we know “that”), I feel good and comfortable with you, but without love there will be no relationship, and she does not have feelings for me, and is still worried ( and as I understand it, she loves her ex, although 2 years have already passed). I wanted to kiss her more than once (but not every meeting), she always freezes, turns away, asks “not to spoil everything (what is everything? the friend zone?), and it’s clear that she is extremely not happy when I do something like that, she says that she might freak out or we won’t see each other again if I kiss her (yes, that’s kind of crazy).
The reason for writing this post: the landlady increased the rent, I “joked” that it would not be a problem to find a new one, but suddenly something goes wrong with you and you decide “he’s a good guy, and you’ll move in with me.” She replied that she doesn’t think I’m bad and that in principle we can try to live together, but I can’t stand it and will kick her out (like troubles in the head) I asked “how are you friends? No thanks, and so everything I’m doing right now is complete crap. (that is, everything is so bad, and I’m in such a mess (friend zone) that she’s considering the option of living with me, JUST like that) When asked why the f*ck, I answered that I hope for something, you say that you don’t need a relationship, that no feelings for me, and tomorrow you can write hello, I have a boyfriend, she replied that yes, this is possible because I am responsible only for my feelings, and you for yours, and if you decide to stop communicating, I will understand.
To sum it up: I really like her, I like spending time with her (perhaps because of many years of boxing and communication mostly among guys) when we meet, she tells a lot, is interested in me, and I learn something from her. BUT, 80% of the initiative is on me regarding meetings and messages online. I didn’t go further than hugs, stroking and kisses on the forehead/temple/cheek (I’m embarrassed to write that at 26). I’m not her boyfriend, she knows that I like me, that I hope for something, I tell her that we won’t be friends and sooner or later this will end. In response, she doesn’t have feelings for me now, she doesn’t know if they will appear, but I am dear to her and she feels good with me. Ride/eat/go somewhere, all expenses are on me. But we don’t go to restaurants, and I don’t give her any gifts/flowers. So it’s not particularly expensive, I’m silent, but I don’t think it’s right to pay for it everywhere if it’s not my girlfriend, and she doesn’t see me as a guy. But at the same time, when we place an order, 95% of the time she always stands nearby and very slowly and reluctantly takes out the card, although in fact she is waiting for me to pay. Also, when she needs help, she turns to me, either with a car, or to advise on something, or to use useful contacts to solve problems, so I believe that I am being used.
Bottom line: My inner instinct and common sense are ringing the bell for me “DO NOT MESS, SHE WILL EAT YOU,” that it’s worth stopping communication. BUT I have certain cockroaches: rose-colored glasses whisper that “what if a miracle happens and everything will grow together, idiotic thinking throws up an obsessive thought that she’s a virgin, she’s afraid (although you can’t tell from her that she’s afraid of something, but this fact VERY appeals to me, and maybe this is not a fact at all, and I’m being scammed) and that I should close the “gestalt” and “achieve” (but not by giving gifts, but just communicate and be there)
Question: I know and understand that the best solution would be to stop communicating and move on. (And my inner instinct tells me that I am being deceived about something, I don’t give her gifts, you won’t get much from me (except for food in poppy seeds), she says that she cares about me and is good with me, but I don’t understand why communicate if I’m not cute. I feel comfortable and interested in spending time with her, even despite the lack of intimacy, BUT she’s still not my girlfriend, it bothers me, I care that she can find someone, or maybe there is someone in general, but I have noodles on my ears. In your opinion, is it possible to somehow turn the situation around/get out of the friend zone/service zone? If so, how? I didn’t just write that she’s a CCM in boxing and a maximalist, competitions, speed, etc., she loves it. I think she needs strong emotions, a blow-out. And I’m quiet and calm like a boa constrictor, unfortunately, and I don’t know how to give them to her. Or if nothing happens in 3 months If something has changed, then it won’t change? I’m only allowed to hug/stroke/smack, something more at once frost and negativity, “there are no feelings, no spark, no love for me.”
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Hello guys and girls, I thank in advance everyone who reads and writes their opinion/advice, the forum is about a pickup truck, but here we are talking about pink snot. Given:
I am a 26-year-old guy, a kind, honest, naive pancake, adequate (this is not exact), but with cockroaches - “tfn", experience of communicating with girls is about zero.
Girl - 23 years old, either with cockroaches or VERY cunning (I still don’t understand), CMS in boxing, had concussions, and now has problems with the head, a maximalist in everything, drinks sedatives, mood swings. If something doesn’t work out at work, for example, it’s a tragedy, and in general, it seems like he’s not jokingly saying that he considers himself a bit of a jackass. According to her, she had one guy, 5 years of relationship, they were planning a wedding. According to her, she is a virgin, and her boyfriend, due to the fact that his family is very religious, said that everything would happen after the wedding, and he himself was engaged in affairs with other ladies. She burned him once and forgave him. I didn’t forgive the second time and left.
The situation - for my taste, she is beautiful, I was hooked that I even dared to meet her crookedly, but to meet her, on the street (2nd time in my life). It was a year ago, she understood and helped, she said, give me the ladies’ number, we corresponded, we met, we went for a walk, we talked, I remembered when she talked about her favorite flowers (without showing off, chrysanthemums). I don’t know how to “bewitch” girls at all, at the 2nd meeting in the process I started hugging, at the 3rd I gave these flowers and kissed them at the end... and that’s it, it was September she was studying, she started to blend in. We haven't seen each other/correspondence is off the hook. After 2 weeks of such “communication”, I said that we do not see each other and she communicates coldly. She said that I was not suitable for her because I started to download my license (yes, there is a sin, I have already started to say that I am against parties, partying, bad habits) and that I kissed him and “hurried things.” I tried to sort it out and smooth it out, to establish communication. But everything continued in the same vein, coldness and lack of meetings. I got burned, stated that I didn’t like this format of communication, and they told me “bye.” But she hooked me and pressed me, I tried to somehow rectify the situation, asked to start all over again, the answer was refusal, and it got to the point where she said she had a boyfriend within a week. I didn’t believe it (but in general I understood that maybe my studies had started and a better option had appeared), and it got to the point that the guy called me and said, like, don’t do crap, well, I realized that I had gone too far (and generally an idiot) and fell behind. But she didn’t leave my mind, and I didn’t fully believe that I found the guy so quickly. Congratulated me on NG with a message, asked how you were doing - rude dump, I have a boyfriend. (but I didn’t see any [url=viewtopic.php?t=544]photos[/url] with him) I congratulated him with a birthday message - it was a waste, but I was interested in how I was doing, I was surprised that I congratulated him, BUT - I have a boyfriend. Then I completely gave up, half a year passes, in TG there is a message from her about some documents. After clarification, it turned out that she accidentally (?) mixed it up and sent it to the wrong person at work, but she already communicated amiably and was interested in how things were going. I asked why so friendly? “You seem to have cooled down and left me, I can admit that the guy is not there and never was, I had to because you didn’t leave.” Well, we decided to meet just to chat - she said that she asked to call a friend (there was even an idea to call him, find out who he is, because deep down I still don’t believe in this), she said that she didn’t want a relationship at all, that after her boyfriend betrayed her, she I’m not at all sure that she’ll love someone, that she doesn’t know why she met me, because she didn’t think at all that I’d be so fixated and she’s disgusted that she did this to me (I don’t believe it, BUT I started to get stuck again). She said we can just communicate, I don’t need a relationship, touching, hugging, kissing is prohibited.
I thought that she was very nice to me, I wouldn’t push the gas and pump up my license, let’s talk, maybe something will work out, but what turned out to be some kind of crap: we’ve been talking for 3 months, we see each other 1-2 (usually 2) times a week. After ~2 meetings, I still started hugging her, then kissing her on the cheek, forehead, when we met and said goodbye. (I don’t mind, but I’m not happy either) I have an apartment and a car, we’ll either go for a ride, get something to eat at the poppy, or We sit in the car and talk, so what does winter allow (a short walk, an ice skating rink, a movie). Either we relax at my house, or at hers (If she’s overwhelmed with work, she rents an apartment, she’s not local), there was a movie and wine, and still I couldn’t even kiss her. Once I touched you on the ass, supposedly to straighten your pants, the reaction was negative, and the lecture was that you would grope whores, and I’m not your girlfriend. There were conversations that I liked her, in response “you are a good guy (yes, yes, we know “that”), I feel good and comfortable with you, but without love there will be no relationship, and she does not have feelings for me, and is still worried ( and as I understand it, she loves her ex, although 2 years have already passed). I wanted to kiss her more than once (but not every meeting), she always freezes, turns away, asks “not to spoil everything (what is everything? the friend zone?), and it’s clear that she is extremely not happy when I do something like that, she says that she might freak out or we won’t see each other again if I kiss her (yes, that’s kind of crazy).
The reason for writing this post: the landlady increased the rent, I “joked” that it would not be a problem to find a new one, but suddenly something goes wrong with you and you decide “he’s a good guy, and you’ll move in with me.” She replied that she doesn’t think I’m bad and that in principle we can try to live together, but I can’t stand it and will kick her out (like troubles in the head) I asked “how are you friends? No thanks, and so everything I’m doing right now is complete crap. (that is, everything is so bad, and I’m in such a mess (friend zone) that she’s considering the option of living with me, JUST like that) When asked why the f*ck, I answered that I hope for something, you say that you don’t need a relationship, that no feelings for me, and tomorrow you can write hello, I have a boyfriend, she replied that yes, this is possible because I am responsible only for my feelings, and you for yours, and if you decide to stop communicating, I will understand.
To sum it up: I really like her, I like spending time with her (perhaps because of many years of boxing and communication mostly among guys) when we meet, she tells a lot, is interested in me, and I learn something from her. BUT, 80% of the initiative is on me regarding meetings and messages online. I didn’t go further than hugs, stroking and kisses on the forehead/temple/cheek (I’m embarrassed to write that at 26). I’m not her boyfriend, she knows that I like me, that I hope for something, I tell her that we won’t be friends and sooner or later this will end. In response, she doesn’t have feelings for me now, she doesn’t know if they will appear, but I am dear to her and she feels good with me. Ride/eat/go somewhere, all expenses are on me. But we don’t go to restaurants, and I don’t give her any gifts/flowers. So it’s not particularly expensive, I’m silent, but I don’t think it’s right to pay for it everywhere if it’s not my girlfriend, and she doesn’t see me as a guy. But at the same time, when we place an order, 95% of the time she always stands nearby and very slowly and reluctantly takes out the card, although in fact she is waiting for me to pay. Also, when she needs help, she turns to me, either with a car, or to advise on something, or to use useful contacts to solve problems, so I believe that I am being used.
Bottom line: My inner instinct and common sense are ringing the bell for me “DO NOT MESS, SHE WILL EAT YOU,” that it’s worth stopping communication. BUT I have certain cockroaches: rose-colored glasses whisper that “what if a miracle happens and everything will grow together, idiotic thinking throws up an obsessive thought that she’s a virgin, she’s afraid (although you can’t tell from her that she’s afraid of something, but this fact VERY appeals to me, and maybe this is not a fact at all, and I’m being scammed) and that I should close the “gestalt” and “achieve” (but not by giving gifts, but just communicate and be there)
Question: I know and understand that the best solution would be to stop communicating and move on. (And my inner instinct tells me that I am being deceived about something, I don’t give her gifts, you won’t get much from me (except for food in poppy seeds), she says that she cares about me and is good with me, but I don’t understand why communicate if I’m not cute. I feel comfortable and interested in spending time with her, even despite the lack of intimacy, BUT she’s still not my girlfriend, it bothers me, I care that she can find someone, or maybe there is someone in general, but I have noodles on my ears. In your opinion, is it possible to somehow turn the situation around/get out of the friend zone/service zone? If so, how? I didn’t just write that she’s a CCM in boxing and a maximalist, competitions, speed, etc., she loves it. I think she needs strong emotions, a blow-out. And I’m quiet and calm like a boa constrictor, unfortunately, and I don’t know how to give them to her. Or if nothing happens in 3 months If something has changed, then it won’t change? I’m only allowed to hug/stroke/smack, something more at once frost and negativity, “there are no feelings, no spark, no love for me.”
